That's a great question, Terrence. And I'll tell you what I've been told and then let you decide whether you think it's persuasive or not. I actually played golf recently with a couple of oil and gas executives. I won't name them, but they're pretty high up in two companies that you would have heard of. And I don't think they had any reason to be anything other than truthful with me. But I'm not a subject matter expert, so I want you to cr...